April 5, 2025

🌴96. A masterclass in presence feat. Michael Grinder(Weekend Rewind)

🌴96. A masterclass in presence feat. Michael Grinder(Weekend Rewind)
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🌴96. A masterclass in presence feat. Michael Grinder(Weekend Rewind)

We have an absolute world-leader in the field of nonverbal communication joining us on the Weekend Rewind, Michael Grinder.

Michael has over 40 years of experience training thousands of groups. Known as the pioneer of nonverbal communication, Michael helps executives and educators assess people more accurately, connect with others more deeply, and build their charisma.

We explore how to use his famous model, the House of Communication in our workshops.

During this conversation, I picked up so many incredibly nuanced things you can do to boost the clarity of my communication in both virtual and face-to-face workshop environments.

The beauty of this conversation is how Michael talks about the large and the small, the micro and the macro, the philosophy around what you do, and then the micro: what type of chair you need, in order to do that.

We also delve into using space, and how to segment space within our environments.

There are so many incredible techniques shared in this one, that you can implement straight away. 

I’d love to thank my co-hosts: Maree Burgess, Leanne Elliot and Martin Haworth for joining in and asking questions, contributing, keeping the conversation flowing beautifully.

About today’s guest: Michael Grinder

Michael Grinder has over 40 years of experience training thousands of groups. Known as the pioneer of nonverbal communication, Michael helps executives and educators assess people more accurately, connect with others more deeply, and build their charisma.

Two well-known experts personally trained Michael in the field of communication: Carl Rogers, the father of humanistic psychology, and Michael’s brother, Dr. John Grinder, co-founder of Neuro-Linguistic Programming. 

Over his career, Michael has written 14 books, which have been translated into seven languages. He’s a sought-after speaker for national and international events and has presented on seven continents. Some of Michael’s additional achievements include:

  • National Director of NLP for Education
  • Teacher of the year at three different schools in California, Washington, and Oregon.
  • Recipient of the 2019 DACH “Mediator of the Year.”

Today, Michael continues to train individuals and companies, and volunteers with community organizations. He lives in Washington State with Gail, the love of his life.


In this episode you will learn:

  • Importance of non-verbal elements in virtual workshop
  • Tips to better utilise our voice in a workshop
  • How you can “block/anchor” elements of the room during face-to-face and virtual workshops
  • How to be confident during in-person and online workshops 
  • How to use your hands effectively, anytime you communicate
  • The difference between Intellectual safety vs. Emotional safety 
  • ABC's of conveying a message for in-person or virtual facilitation

Here are some questions I asked Michael during the interview:

  • What led you into the path of exploring and diving deep into the world of communication?
  • How do you find the virtual world of communicating as opposed to the joy we have with being in person?
  • How can we bring the elements of non-verbal into the virtual world?
  • How can we get better at utilizing our voice?
  • What are things that we can do about things that are going off-track?
  • How can we block elements in a virtual workshop?


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