🌴260. Michael Bungay Stanier on How to Be a Goal Shooter in Life

Picture this: I’m in Melbourne, it’s been a day of hiking, gathering, and birthday celebrating, and I somehow manage to rope Michael Bungay Stanier (MBS) into a conversation about… netball.

Now, Michael’s got the height but zero experience, so naturally I recruit him into my imaginary corporate games team as goal shooter. What follows is a hilarious and surprisingly profound chat about netball, positioning, resilience, and how it all maps beautifully onto life, branding, and leadership.

We cover everything from standing tall and making yourself a target (in the best way possible), to what to do when you miss your shot, to how to reset for the next play. It’s practical, it’s playful, and it’s packed with metaphors that might just change how you show up this week.

Thanks MBS for playing along — and for anyone listening who thought they didn’t care about netball, this episode might just convert you.

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