Aug. 30, 2025

🌴243. From Collingwood to the Conference Room feat. Mark McKeon (Weekend Rewind)

🌴243. From Collingwood to the Conference Room feat. Mark McKeon (Weekend Rewind)
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🌴243. From Collingwood to the Conference Room feat. Mark McKeon (Weekend Rewind)
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I’m joined by Mark McKeon—ex-AFL player, high-performance coach with Collingwood, creator of The Go Zone and Everyday Counts. We dig into the real-world parallels between elite sport and facilitation: preparation, energy management, room design, AV (yes, batteries!), and what it truly means to be audience-centric.

Why listen

If you want practical, field-tested ways to run the room (from set-up to mindset) and still have fuel left in the tank, this one is gold.

What we cover

  • Serendipity to stage: How a one-off corporate talk turned into 1,400+ presentations.
  • Sport → Facilitation: The “you on game day” mindset and why it matters when you’re the one with the ball (aka the mic).
  • Start with the end in mind: The magic-wand briefing question: “If this goes perfectly, what three outcomes happen?”
  • Audience-centric delivery: Get out of your own head; read the room; respond to cues (phones out = change it up).
  • Split-brain skill: Stay present and steer the session toward outcomes—at the same time.
  • Room craft (the unsexy advantage):
  • Avoid long, skinny rooms; position yourself in the middle if you must.
  • Always use a stage for big rooms.
  • Ditch the lectern; go lapel mic (hands free).
  • Ask AV for fresh batteries (non-negotiable).
  • Prefer rounds, open at the front for smaller groups; block off the back in large rooms so people sit closer.
  • Expect the unexpected: Sirens, alarms, gear hiccups—your calm sets the tone.
  • Energy management: Arrive early, then disappear until showtime. Take breaks solo. One coffee. Move your body in the morning. No alcohol the night before.
  • The Go/Slow/No Zone system (sustainable peak performance):
  • Go Zone (≈2 hrs): Door shut, notifications off, single-task the most important items. Buzzer on.
  • Slow Zone: Still productive, lighter context-switching.
  • No Zone: True recovery—phone off, do what restores you.
  • Aim for a 2:1 ratio of Go:No across the week; schedule both and move it, don’t lose it.
  • Memorable, not gimmicky: Use images/props only when they’re congruent with the message (007 = Organization, Optimism, 7 Habits; crocodile suit = thick skin in sales). Don’t let tricks upstage the teaching.
  • Breaking in: Do every rep you can (Rotary, clubs, internal meetings). The best marketing? Do a great job.

Favorite lines

  • Be audience-centric. You’re there to serve them, not your slide deck.”
  • Stress isn’t the problem—lack of recovery is.
  • “Don’t be a prisoner to your structure—steer toward outcomes.
  • Move it, don’t lose it—especially your No Zones.”

Practical checklist (use before your next workshop)

  • Ask the magic-wand outcomes question.
  • Confirm room shape, stage, seating, lectern = no, lapel mic = yes.
  • Fresh batteries in the mic pack.
  • Schedule this week’s Go blocks (2 hrs) and No blocks (recovery).
  • Plan a “phone-out pivot” (what you’ll do if attention dips).
  • Decide your entrance and first 60 seconds.
  • Script 2–3 audience-centric checkpoints (pause, pulse questions, turn & talk).

Timestamps

  • 00:00 Intro & Mark’s left-field path to facilitation
  • 06:30 Sport → stage: pressure, ownership, performance
  • 12:10 Briefing right: outcomes first, then design
  • 17:45 Audience-centric delivery & reading cues
  • 23:20 Room set-up that actually helps you facilitate
  • 31:05 Mic choices, AV etiquette, and battery rules
  • 36:30 Energy rituals: pre-show, breaks, and recovery
  • 43:20 The Go/Slow/No Zone system (with ratios)
  • 52:10 Stories vs. gimmicks: making images serve the message
  • 58:00 First-time facilitator advice that still hits

Links & mentions

  • Mark McKeon – Go Zone & Everyday Counts (search his site/books to dive deeper)
  • Collingwood FC (context for Mark’s high-performance background)

Try this this week

Block one Go Zone (120 minutes) before lunch, every day for five days. One task at a time. Door shut. Notifications off. Then book three No Zone hours across the week. Report back—I want to hear what changed.

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